Says dumb
A head of state in a cockpit is a risk no one would allow. The film sells it with a speech, but it is a bad idea in every other way.
Independence Day (1996)
At 2:11:40
Verdict: Guilty. 61% of viewers say this is dumb. Top defense: President Whitmore is established as a former fighter pilot, and the film uses it as the story's morale moment.
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President Whitmore, a former fighter pilot, flies with the squadron in the final attack on the aliens. He leads the pilots in the final strike. The film treats it as a rousing moment.
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Says dumb
A head of state in a cockpit is a risk no one would allow. The film sells it with a speech, but it is a bad idea in every other way.
Says explained
The film sets up that he is a former pilot and that he feels guilt about his decisions. It is a morale scene more than a tactical one.
President Whitmore is established as a former fighter pilot, and the film uses it as the story's morale moment.
President Whitmore is established as a former fighter pilot, and the film uses it as the story's morale moment.
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Keep him on the ground with a headset, calling shots to the squadron. The speech stays and the country stays governed.