Says dumb
The first two films of the trilogy were built on the idea that the Empire had fallen. Bringing back Palpatine in the opening crawl with no explanation undoes that and makes the earlier story smaller.
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019)
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Verdict: Guilty. 77% of viewers say this is dumb. Top defense: The film shows him alive in a Sith fortress, kept going by machinery and the dark side.
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The opening crawl says the dead Emperor's voice has been heard across the galaxy, and Kylo Ren finds him on the planet Exegol. He appears as a damaged body connected to machines. The film does not say how he survived his fall in Return of the Jedi.
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Says dumb
The first two films of the trilogy were built on the idea that the Empire had fallen. Bringing back Palpatine in the opening crawl with no explanation undoes that and makes the earlier story smaller.
Says explained
The film shows that he used the dark side to survive. Star Wars has always allowed for odd Sith powers, and the film makes it a short mystery to explain.
Says dumb
I could accept the return if the film took a few minutes to show how. As it is, the line about 'somehow' is not enough for a return of this size.
The film shows him alive in a Sith fortress, kept going by machinery and the dark side.
The film shows him alive in a Sith fortress, kept going by machinery and the dark side.
The Sith have been shown to cheat death in other stories, and the film treats it as established lore.
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Kylo asks, 'How are you alive?' Palpatine replies with one line about a ritual that he began before the fall. The audience has an anchor.
A newer idea
Cut the crawl line and let him be a ghost in Kylo's dreams. No return needed, just a long shadow.
More fixes
Plant a message from Snoke or Luke in the prior film that mentions the Emperor's body was never found.